reading plato nomoi stumbled upon following phrase . Nomoi book X 15 last sentense . “if he left children that can be useful for the state so shall the government agancy responsible for care of orhphans also take care of these orphans as like other orphans from the day on their father has been sentensed”

of course plato talking in this discourse about bigotery how people questioning the gods should be sentensed and put to death and how it should be dealt with their remaining children. however the point of interest for us is here the words orphans and government agency responsible for care of orphans.

unfortunately plato did not mention or write more about the subject for us to figure out if there is already an agency for taking care of orphans or wheter it should be established in his utopia. however the taking care of orphans after the execution of their father due to blashpemy or questioning gods is an interesting point. it already talks about an issue that is established in our modern society with the establishemnt of social services previous times under the care of the churches. however a secular government agency taking care of social services in ancient greek seems a very modern thought (service).

all information we gather about the human show the contrary.

lately we saw a octopuss using a tool. a last refuge for our greatness vanished. we hardly accepted that some apes use tools. now we have to deal with the issue that spineless squids know how to use a tool. what a desaster for a selfcentered being.

being humanist is always used in terms regarding the protection of the human or living. human society showed humans reach their height under danger and extreme circumstances. protected environment lead to mediocre life. he becomes good but not inventive. all great invention that enhanced human life was a invention for war or the asociated industries or craftworks.

is the human the center of the universe. hardly. mathematicly it is possible for developing circumstances that protect or make possible life. it is possible that the life on other places in the universe is much more advanced and the living their are much more advanced living then the human are.

and is the human the most advanced on earth. he has tools so the squid. he has housing so do many living building nests, he has family so do many living and with more care, he has wisdom, we don´t know about the widom of the other living, you can´t compare, and the other living is far ahead it has greater eyes, better ears, greater smell, better taste, more senses electric organs, infrared, ultrasonic sound wave and other senses we know nothing.

turn the page we know nothing.

i don´t want to be a product of my environment i want my environment be a product of me. so what would happen if anyone or better everyone would live under this premiss makes this their life motto. let´s analyze this.

take a group of ten men and make them the environment or the society. pick one of the ten and make him the one who says the quote.

that system would work if he would lead the group or he would form the group after his will and the group is willing to be lead by the group and makes no attempt to oppose the ruling or shaping by this one. under these premisses the group will work the system will run perfectly without flaw.

the deal changes if the group refuses to be lead. and opposes the lead of the one who tries to imprint the others. the model works if no one could escape the group and is destined to remain in the group. now the group is occupied to refuse the rule of the one and the one is occupied to try to lead the group and form the group. no one can go to his business. since everyone is concerned occupied to lead or refuse the lead of the one.

the situation get´s worse if everyone in the group has the intention. now everyone is refusing to be a product of the environment the other and trying to make the other a product of his. now not ten are refusing the one and are occupied with the refuse now ten try to be the one and ten try to refuse to be the environment of the other. the group dissolves.

the quote of the scorsese movie fails.